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// PUBLIC GAMING INTERNATIONAL // September/October 2016

i-games. In the minds of politicians, that is a logical compromise

that allows government-lotteries to compete on a level playing field.

Unfortunately, the commercial companies applying for licenses had

been operating illegally for years. So, they had the customer data-

bases and the operational know-how to carve out a big competitive

advantage. Further, as you can imagine, government operators are

constrained to comply with a standard of advertising and market-

ing restrictions that is much higher than those applied to the com-

mercial operators. Technically, the laws may apply equally to both.

But in the spirit of “ask for forgiveness instead of permission” yet

again, commercial operators can go to the edge and beyond, know-

ing that they can litigate when they cross the line, or eventually

relent and comply if they are forced to do so. Government opera-

tors are not so free to do that. There is a partial solution to that

last issue. Lawmakers could require that the new licensee closes its

customer data-base and start from scratch.

This also brings up an area where we can collaborate as a com-

munity of government-lotteries. Presently, i-gaming operators are

operating legally where they can get a license, and illegally where

they can’t. As a community of government-gaming operators, we

could advocate with one voice for the requirement to operate legal-

ly everywhere as a condition for getting licensed in each individual

jurisdiction. We are promoting that concept within the European

Union now and it will become an even more effective deterrent to

illegal operators once it is applied throughout the world, especially

in the U.S. and Canada. It is a perfectly reasonable condition to ex-

pect that a business applying for license to operate legally in one ju-

risdiction not operate as a criminal enterprise in other jurisdictions.

This would create a very compelling incentive for all operators to

respect the laws of the land wherever they operate.

Lynne Roiter:

We may all think that is a reasonable position,

Philippe, but shapers of public policy do not seem to agree. As was

pointed out, i-gaming operators who disregarded the laws of many

jurisdictions do seem to be able to re-group, execute work-arounds,

and find ways to legitimize their operation as soon as it becomes

expedient for them to do so.

Gordon Medenica:

Isn’t that the history of technology and reg-

ulation—technological innovation that drives market-place change

is always ahead of regulation. And to some extent, Lottery is always

playing catch-up. I think our issue as an industry is much bigger

than just getting on the internet because quite frankly, as we saw

from some of the presentations this morning and yesterday, the

revenue potential of new games is nice but it’s not necessarily as

good as a $1.6 billion Powerball jackpot. Is there a way for Lottery

to keep pace with these regulatory and market-place changes?

James Maida:

It is very difficult to define gambling, to legislate

the meaning of skill versus chance, to define specific levels of skill

versus chance, and to measure those factors. And that’s not the only

issue that makes the job of creating a clear definition of gambling

functional in a legal sense. In my role of advising the U.S. House

and Senate committees who are trying to sort these issues out, I

tell them that the current status of outlawing all gambling at the

federal level and allowing states to decide which forms of gambling

to allow, permitting states to define precisely what they will allow

and what they won’t, is the best. This is not about passing the buck

to states to wrestle down a thorny issue. It is about the fact that it

is more legally do-able to define what you will allow rather than

define what you will not. Of course, the federal government does

not want be in the position of legislating the broadest definition

of what is permissible. That would mean requiring Utah to apply

the regulatory model of Nevada. That is why the best solution is to

empower the states to control the whole process.

Gordon Medenica:

Thankfully, there is no discussion in the

United States about altering the monopoly status of state lotteries.

But, as Philippe points out, that was also the case for European lot-

teries some years ago. When we ask for the right to expand the port-

folio of games and distribution channels, that can invite a wider dis-

cussion about the entire regulatory model. In Europe, the outcome

of that discussion has not been favorable to government lotteries.

It’s quite an old case now but it still serves as a good example.

German lottery operators were basically given the option of keep-

ing their monopoly and give up the right to advertise, or give up

your monopoly and retain the right to advertise. They chose to

keep their monopoly, and now their ability to promote the prod-

ucts is severely restricted.

Philippe Vlaemminck:

That is correct. The result is not surpris-

ing. Revenues went down and the attitude of the political leaders

is that it is fine for government-gaming sales to decline. Sports-

betting in particular shifted almost completely from the authorized

government operators over to gray market operators who are not

licensed to offer sports-betting.

Lynne Roiter:

The Canadian model is much like what James

described. Everything, all forms of gambling are illegal until and

unless specific forms of gambling are legalized and regulated at the

provincial level, with very specific conditions under which they are

conducted. Regulatory decisions are certainly not controlled by the

lottery. We are accountable to our political and legislative constitu-

ents and so we communicate with them our positions on how best

to minimize illegal gambling and social costs and problem gam-

bling. It does appear that our political stakeholders have a clearer

vision for how to best serve the interests of society when it comes to

the regulation of gambling than politicians in Europe and the U.S.

But making sure that legislators and our political stakeholders have

the information to make intelligent decisions is key for all of us.

Gordon Medenica:

Absolutely. Lottery still has a tremendous

brand loyalty and strength. But that too needs to be protected.

Last December a London-based internet operator called theLotter.

com sold an Oregon MegaBucks lotto ticket to a player in Iraq.

Panel Discussion